What happened to Dell?
I've worked with Dell systems since 1997. Over these years, my general experience with Dell has been a positive one, with an occasional hiccup here and there with bad support, faulty hardware, etc. I've been especially impressed over the years with their server line though. The quality has been sufficient and support good.
Recently I posted a blog regarding the Windows Tax, and how Dell is a victim of this horrible problem, strongly urging Linux users to contact Dell for a Windows refund if they are forced to purchase a new system with Windows.
But over the past year or two, other things seemed to have disintegrated at Dell. I've noticed a few things, some very recently:
- The Dell Premier site for businesses is extremely slow, and seems to have a lot of problems (miscellaneous errors or pages that do not load, etc.). I noticed that they use Microsoft ASP.NET technology on their servers, I don't know if this has anything to do with it.
- Production times have greatly increased over the past year, and are very unreliable for new systems. Recently with a couple of orders, the initial ship date was set to 2 weeks, then got moved back 2 weeks twice, making it a total wait time of about 6 weeks. I was told that there was a problem at one of the facilities in China, and they may have experienced a shortage of parts so they couldn't fulfill the order. 6 weeks wait time for a new PC seemed a little extreme to me. It seems that wait times on almost all new orders are taking at least 2 weeks, often times closer to 3-4 weeks.
- In a recent attempt at contacting Dell support, I went to use the Dell Chat Support, however when viewing it in Firefox it errored out saying I needed the Quicktime plugin in order to display properly. I also tried Internet Exploder and it said "page cannot be displayed". I was forced to use the phone and in the end the tech said that they would send a technician out to fix the PC, but it would take up to 3 business days. I immediately looked at my receipt which says we have "Next Business Day" support. The tech explained that there could be unexpected delays. He also said he would provide further details on the service call in an email later, as he could not over the phone because their "database was down for maintenance".
- I also experienced another recent problem with Dell Latitude e4300 machines where the original motherboard was causing Windows to "lock up" at random. Replacing the motherboard fixed the issue in 5 separate machines. There are also posts all over Google on this very same issue, yet Dell has not acknowledged any problem whatsoever, or offered a recall to the problem.
At times, I have considered looking at other vendors like HP which is #1 worldwide at the moment. Acer seems to be up in the ranks too. I know it's impossible to find the perfect vendor, however Dell gives many reasons to look at competitors.
Talkback
Totally agree with you on this one. Our department (schools services) has now
switched over to buying new machines from HP, which work very well. The reason
we switched from Dell to HP is due to the lack of support and the hardware in
the pc's fail after a year or two. The support helpline was never 'helpful'
always talking to someone overseas who would arrange a visit, if needed, from
a technician in Glasgow, why they couldnt just give us the number for the Glasgow
centre (believe me we constantly asked) is a mystery. I wouldnt recommend to
anyone to buy Dell anymore as they dont live up to their own expectations and
as soon as they have your money, you might as well take a out a service agreement
with someone on the moon, then at least your problem might be solved quicker.
tHeClAw 4 March, 2010 09:19 Reply
I too have noticed a drop in standards, both in hardware and support. The hardware issues (at least in EMEA) are, according to a friend who works in the company, largely down to the transition of manufacturing to a new plant in Poland.
The support issues appear, at least from the outside, to be partly a result of consolidation within Dell resulting in less granularity in the support structure the company runs.
For the record, I always found the business support technicians in Glasgow
to be top notch. Just seems to be harder to get through to them these days.
BitSmith 8 March, 2010 13:09 Reply
Sorry to see that Dell Support has not done well. After an initial check with our chat team, I'm not aware of issues with our chat tool and Firefox. Most importantly though, I'd like to help with your service request if you still need it.
Feel free to contact me via a private message with your service tag and contact information. I'll be happy to have someone from the team follow up with you.
Sincerely,
Lionel Menchaca
www.twitter.com/LionelatDell
LionelatDell 10 March, 2010 17:35 Reply
This is a good response, and I hope it pays off in getting this problem solved - if it is not already too late. From the text of the original posting, I suspect that it is too late, both to fix this problem and to save the relationship with the customer who is already considering other suppliers.
I hope that it is clear, both to the person who posted the comment offering help and to the general readership, that while kind and probably well-intentioned, this kind of follow-up is NOT any sort of solution to the original problem. Dell's computers have become obviously and significantly less reliable over the past year or so. Their delivery schedules have become equally less reliable. Worst of all, when this happens, their customer support has gone downhill as well. None of this is going to be improved, or in fact helped in any way, by offers of individual help like this.
Until about a year ago, I would automatically recommend buying Dell computers, both laptops and desktops, to anyone who asked. I then started having second thoughts about that recommendation, when a few of my friends started telling me about problems with their Dell computers, compounded by even bigger problems when they tried to get them fixed. I now not only do not recommend Dell to anyone, I actively discourage them from buying Dell. Period.
Sliding down this slope of poor quality, poor service, and poor reputation is easy. Climbing back up it again is very, very difficult. Good luck, Dell, I would like to see you recover - but I am very skeptical.
jw
J.A. Watson 12 March, 2010 07:04 Reply
JW, you are right on. The problems with Dell are far more severe than simply their customer support. The problems go back to the manufacturing level, and continue all the way up to the final product and support thereafter.
The Dell Premier site has been slow and buggy for years. We've attempted to log in to get quotes or make purchases, only to find out that it's down for 2-3 hours. This has happened repeatedly, we've informed various Dell contacts of the problem and they acknowledge it, and yet the problems still happen. Essentially Dell is turning away business up front by having a site so unreliable.
Countless times while on the phone with a Dell tech or contact, their own systems are down and they cannot get certain information. It's not a problem to us, but I take notice in that they have so many technical problems on their end. I often wonder what hardware/software they run internally that has so many problems.
In the example in my original post where I attempted to use Dell Chat, the situation only went downhill. As the technician on the phone pointed out, there was a delay, but it was only by 1 day. Instead of getting "Next Business Day" support that we paid for, we got Two Day Support. It's almost as if the technician knew in advance there would be a delay as he mentioned it completely out of the blue. And, unfortunately, that did not fix the problem and the tech had to come out the day after and swap out the motherboard, and we had to wait an additional day on top of that to get a replacement stick of bad RAM. In the end, it ended up taking 4 days total to get this system fixed, and the system was only 2 days old.
Dell's problems have compounded and as a result, it is leading to very frustrating
times with customers. It's not just one issue, but a whole series of them. This
is going to drive business away from Dell, no doubt about it. I really hope
Dell gets its act together soon. Overall over the years, I've had great experiences
with Dell, until recently. It would be nice to see Dell get back on track and
back to how they used to be.
apexwm 12 March, 2010 13:31 Reply
Well, its good to see after a month that no representative from Dell is willing
to step forwards and defend the issue/s !
DELLinquent 6 April, 2010 15:36 Reply